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zwei2stein · Apr 03, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

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On March 18, both Team Pandemic and CheckSix announced they each had signed deals to sponsor a WoW Arena team. They sponsors plucked the top two teams from the Bloodlust Battlegroup [with so many servers in World of Warcraft, they are broke down into small "battlegroups" for cross-server play]. "Bloodlust is home to many competitive PvP guilds both from past games and WoW itself (Nurfed, Vicious Cycle, Eminence, etc.)," said Joseph Romano, the leader of Power Trip. "It [the sponsorship] is only going to attract more teams to come to the cluster."

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158429

So, umm, why the hell didn't leading PvP guilds have some big name sponsorships yet? Or did they?

VitisVinifera · Apr 03, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42

because gw is a fraction the size of wow

TabascoSauce · Apr 03, 2007, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Zwei, you are asking for trouble with this thread. Better put on a flame-retardant suit.

G/L man, nice knowing you.
Tabascosauce

Deleet · Apr 03, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Because WoW has at least double as many active users as GW, also I don't see where you would put your banners or adds in GW.

lightblade · Apr 03, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Because Anet oppose in-game ads. Sponsers won't sponser you unless they can get something out of it.

Xenex Xclame · Apr 03, 2007, 08:25 PM // 20:25

Deleet : They sponsor the Guilds, not Guildwars as a game.
Think like, pc, keyboards, mice, paying for transportation to competitions being held etcetc.

Well come to think of it, there isn't that many things sponsors could do to make their names heard by sponsoring guilds in GW.
Maybe just maybe depending on how Automated Tournaments turn out, sponsoring might be something to think about.

HawkofStorms · Apr 03, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

The ONLY game that has a serious pro-gaming community (as in, players can actually make a living playing that game and having sponsorships etc) is StarCraft, the top player earning over 300,000 USD a year. Korea is obsessed with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCra...al_competition

Professional video gaming, however, is still a VERY small market. Its not ground breaking that somebody is trying to expand it to WoW and it shouldn't be surprising that it isn't happening (yet) with GW since like 99.9% of all video games do not have this.

Onarik Amrak · Apr 03, 2007, 09:24 PM // 21:24

If you listen to the noobs who think they're pro, then "pro-gaming" is everywhere. If you're sane however, I'd say the top guilds could be considered pro to a degree... They do win prizes and stuff, afterall.

lyra_song · Apr 03, 2007, 09:30 PM // 21:30

The top GW pro guilds that actually would get sponsorship would be in Korea. And we dont know if they got their faces on cereal boxes or something...

FoxBat · Apr 03, 2007, 09:33 PM // 21:33

There were one or two professional Korean guilds at GW launch, not so much anymore.

Mercury Angel · Apr 03, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3013313
As was stated, there have been sponsored guilds, which means there's always the potential for more. I think the visibility of tournaments like the one in Taipei help, but ah, who knows how to influence a niche market, really?

Ensign · Apr 03, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

All sponsorship means is that some person or business has agreed to pay the expenses for a team to travel and compete in tournaments. Both of the Guild Wars Championships have been paid for entirely by Arena.net, so there hasn't been any need for sponsors. If tournaments in the future aren't paid for entirely by Arena.net, you can be sure that qualified teams will be sponsored to attend.

Where you see most of the money being made is from endorsements. I don't think Guild Wars is high enough profile to justify lucrative endorsements, but I believe some have already been agreed to on a much smaller scale, ala Razer for a lot of teams in Germany.

I'm interested to hear what sponsored WoW teams are actually getting from their sponsorships...are they having their monthly fee paid for them or something? It's not like there's even a prize check waiting for the winners of the arena tournament.

Peace,
-CxE

gasmaskman · Apr 03, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

I know there's a few endorsements AA, CS, etc. teams where they get free ventrilo, TS, websites, servers, etc.

Fatal1ty is probably the only well-known American video-game player with his own line of gaming accessories (which are mostly crap).

Zinger314 · Apr 04, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by Ensign

I'm interested to hear what sponsored WoW teams are actually getting from their sponsorships...are they having their monthly fee paid for them or something? It's not like there's even a prize check waiting for the winners of the arena tournament.

The first, first prize for the WoW tournement is $5,000, plus travel expenses. Incredibly ironic, compared to the prizes for the Guild Wars tournements.

HawkofStorms · Apr 04, 2007, 12:56 AM // 00:56

But, isn't the GW tournement prizes split amoung the 8 people?
How is WoW's $5000 dished out.

ensoriki · Apr 04, 2007, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

The ONLY game that has a serious pro-gaming community (as in, players can actually make a living playing that game and having sponsorships etc) is StarCraft, the top player earning over 300,000 USD a year. Korea is obsessed with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCra...al_competition

Professional video gaming, however, is still a VERY small market. Its not ground breaking that somebody is trying to expand it to WoW and it shouldn't be surprising that it isn't happening (yet) with GW since like 99.9% of all video games do not have this.

300,000 USD a year....to play VIDEO GAMES
OMFG...moving to korea.
Getting payed to have fun....damn thats heaven on earth....

If GW got something like that I'd never leave my house, online grocery shopping -_-.

Anyways you do get rewards when you win in the Big ladder comps every year.

ensoriki · Apr 04, 2007, 01:09 AM // 01:09

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Originally Posted by gasmaskman

I know there's a few endorsements AA, CS, etc. teams where they get free ventrilo, TS, websites, servers, etc.

Fatal1ty is probably the only well-known American video-game player with his own line of gaming accessories (which are mostly crap).

what about that guy in MLG
t-squared or whatever.

Xenex Xclame · Apr 04, 2007, 01:57 AM // 01:57

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Originally Posted by gasmaskman

Fatal1ty is probably the only well-known American video-game player with his own line of gaming accessories (which are mostly crap).

You mean kinda like him?

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Anarkii · Apr 04, 2007, 02:23 AM // 02:23

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

The first, first prize for the WoW tournement is $5,000, plus travel expenses. Incredibly ironic, compared to the prizes for the Guild Wars tournements.

This is the first "experimental" season of the tournament. Pretty sure if it's a success(certainly looks that way), they'll have much bigger rewards in the future.

wetsparks · Apr 04, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

The ONLY game that has a serious pro-gaming community (as in, players can actually make a living playing that game and having sponsorships etc) is StarCraft, the top player earning over 300,000 USD a year. Korea is obsessed with it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCra...al_competition

Ever heard of Madden and Halo? The pros there actually have websites and charge people for an hour of "tutoring" so they can be better at the game.
http://www.halo-pro.com/cgi/index.php
http://www.mlgpro.com/

P.S. To lazy to find the one for Madden but it's out there. ESPN advertised one Madden tourney that gave away $100,000 to the winner.